I wanna rant about lifted pickup trucks, there are so many here. the cargo bed has no hydraulic dumping/loading system and always stays level so it isn't very useful for transporting loading/unloading material, while at the same time you have to be in good shape to even fucking get inside of it. Nobody even uses pickups for transporting materials anyways outside of contract workers (who obviously don't lift it and if anything lower it). Basically no cars have ramps or are even convertable to allow wheelchair access when they are a huge van/SUV even though that is an obvious design possibility enabled by having a larger vehicle. Fucking dutch microcars can come with ramps and in the US I see vans with fucking cranes and lifting systems for the elderly and wheelchair users and shit it is so ridiculous and requires someone to assist anyways. They are *too big* and *too tall* and just cause cascading accessibility problems.

No, these things aren't for accessibility, you hear advocacy around cars for accessibility from the people this car-centric ideology has encircled and threatened and most deeply controlled who cannot see an escape. The soccer mom with multiple kids who is expected to be their personal gasoline valet from birth until driver's license and the status-wielding car owners who flaunt wealth or manliness with their automobile on a work commute full of debt-sink spaghetti interchanges that bankrupt their city. People who forgot how Newton's laws work and think bigger cars are safer and provide more protection (from the other huge cars) as a protection racket of momentum.

If cars are so accessible:
1. Where can I hop in one and use it now?
2. Where are the accessible ones which can be used without a hand, arm, leg, or from a wheelchair without assistance?
3. Why do they kill so many fucking people during the regular course of operation???

@thufie Here in Europe there's luckily not that many of the lifted colossal pickup trucks, and many of us find them just hilariously useless

Probably due to the smaller roads and higher taxes the pickup trucks there are are also not as massive, and are used for actual utility purposes like hauling fuel tanks for farming or forestry equipment etc.

And like there's no need for weird lifts or anything when you just have a low floor van like most of the more accessible taxis here


@thufie As a bit of a car enthusiast with some coordination issues at times, I very much wonder the same thing about accessibility in driving the things btw, like, what stops there from being a car you can drive without even legs entirely? Why can't we stick the throttle as an analog lever on the steering wheel for example?

Or have a plane-style yoke or joystick that can be used with one hand

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@thufie And like I'm (almost) fully abled, and the standard system of a wheel and pedals just feels kind of unoptimal to me too, so I'm sure if we actually tried new things we could develop methods which are not only more accessible, but also better or easier for abled drivers too

@SigmaOne @thufie hand controls are a thing. They’re aftermarket, but not difficult or terribly expensive to have outfitted. I have two friends who are 100% wheelchair users and drive regularly; one uses a modified Kia crossover and the other a minivan. Both have driver-side lifts to pull their chair into a driving position from the ground, along with hand controls for acceleration and braking, and a swivel on the wheel to make one-handed steering safer.

@calcifer @SigmaOne I think it'd help if we didn't have to operate heavy machinery in what is essentially a cockpit that is *going* to be complicated just to get places smh

@thufie @SigmaOne agreed there’s definitely a reason cargo vans and minivans are so popular for wheelchair users that drive: the relatively open plan of the front seating area (vs the “cockpit” design) makes them much easier to adapt into WAVs, and the wider side doors make setting up a ramp or lift much more straightforward

@calcifer @SigmaOne also those doors can fucking smash you if parked on an incline if they are the kind I'm thinking of

@thufie @SigmaOne yeah I can imagine. That explains why most of the ones I see on WAVs are electric …

@calcifer @thufie @SigmaOne

in Europe the "MPV" (multi purpose vehicle), basically a supermini with a larger body is popular with seniors and wheelchair users for this reason and regularly adapted.

One of our fleet cars is an automatic Ford Fusion MPV (this is completely different from the USA vehicle of same name) and it had hand controls but those were removed before sale (it is driven by able bodied staff who prefer automatic cars and the controls can be re-used for another vehicle)

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