@thufie Here in Europe there's luckily not that many of the lifted colossal pickup trucks, and many of us find them just hilariously useless
Probably due to the smaller roads and higher taxes the pickup trucks there are are also not as massive, and are used for actual utility purposes like hauling fuel tanks for farming or forestry equipment etc.
And like there's no need for weird lifts or anything when you just have a low floor van like most of the more accessible taxis here
@SigmaOne just further evidence that when usians talk about cars as accessibility it is such a fucking joke
@SigmaOne our wheelchair accessible vehicles are too scared to lower the chassis enough for ramps I think given the unpredictable road and parking lot quality
@thufie Which is also kind of ridiculous considering that we're fine in Finland with roads and parking lots constantly in horrible condition due to the winters
@thufie As a bit of a car enthusiast with some coordination issues at times, I very much wonder the same thing about accessibility in driving the things btw, like, what stops there from being a car you can drive without even legs entirely? Why can't we stick the throttle as an analog lever on the steering wheel for example?
Or have a plane-style yoke or joystick that can be used with one hand
@thufie And like I'm (almost) fully abled, and the standard system of a wheel and pedals just feels kind of unoptimal to me too, so I'm sure if we actually tried new things we could develop methods which are not only more accessible, but also better or easier for abled drivers too
@SigmaOne @thufie hand controls are a thing. They’re aftermarket, but not difficult or terribly expensive to have outfitted. I have two friends who are 100% wheelchair users and drive regularly; one uses a modified Kia crossover and the other a minivan. Both have driver-side lifts to pull their chair into a driving position from the ground, along with hand controls for acceleration and braking, and a swivel on the wheel to make one-handed steering safer.
@thufie @SigmaOne agreed there’s definitely a reason cargo vans and minivans are so popular for wheelchair users that drive: the relatively open plan of the front seating area (vs the “cockpit” design) makes them much easier to adapt into WAVs, and the wider side doors make setting up a ramp or lift much more straightforward
in Europe the "MPV" (multi purpose vehicle), basically a supermini with a larger body is popular with seniors and wheelchair users for this reason and regularly adapted.
One of our fleet cars is an automatic Ford Fusion MPV (this is completely different from the USA vehicle of same name) and it had hand controls but those were removed before sale (it is driven by able bodied staff who prefer automatic cars and the controls can be re-used for another vehicle)
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